Lawsuit

[dj42]

I don't Know how anyone else feels but I sick of Motorex. He (Hiro?) isn't doing his end of the contract. He lies to everyone about the status of the cars. Most of the cars haven't even gone through EPA. I think we can all get together and file a lawsuit against Motorex, get our cars and some money back for all the crap he put us through. How do you guys feel about this?

[2.7GTR]

You are more likely to drive him out of business (sending the cars back to Japan in the process) than getting any money out of the deal.


At the moment, the cars just can't go anywhere....Motorex's warehouse is full, DOT is requiring more documentation that is not available at the moment.

I'm just as frustrated as you are, but a lawsuit right now is not the right way to go about it......

[dj42]

They don't need anything from the dot. the cars haven't gone through epa. He just wouldn't pay the company he contracted to do the epa work so they haven't done anything with the cars. he's feeding you a line of **** if he is telling you it's because of the dot. what car is yours? I can tell you if i saw it and when it will really go to the epa testing center. I know the prople doing the work.

[2.7GTR]

Calm down and read my post. I'm telling you I think the WHOLE process is backed up.

My vehicle has already been through the EPA testing. My car is the Red Pearl R32, Veilside kit. The complete package was mailed via Fedex on 18 DEC. DOT responded on the 27th (or 24th?) of January with a request for supporting information regarding some items on the car.
George Stevens at the DOT is responsible for the package submitted in regards to my vehicle. I know from phone conversations with him directly that my car is complete with the exception of the air bag issue.

Likely, Hiro hasn't pushed the cars throught the EPA testing because he has nowhere to put them once completed (their garage is completely full as it is) and free capital is probably pretty limited seeing as they have a number of cars tied up in the DOT......

Originally posted by dj42
They don't need anything from the dot. the cars haven't gone through epa. He just wouldn't pay the company he contracted to do the epa work so they haven't done anything with the cars. he's feeding you a line of **** if he is telling you it's because of the dot. what car is yours? I can tell you if i saw it and when it will really go to the epa testing center. I know the prople doing the work.

[KodakMoment]

They can kiss my ass, Im a very patient person but this is getting ridiculous.

[dj42]

I saw all the cars at the shop. The problem here is you don't take money, make a contract and say you'll have your car in 3 or 4 months. I'm tired of being lied to. he told me on more than one occasion he had sent the check to pay for the epa testing to begin. that check has been in the mail for over a month. If the problem is he doesn't have room, he should tell me. His real problem is he gets to work when the people from the dot and epa are going home from work. Maby if he got up before noon something would get done. The only person he has helping him is Mihoko and she is the accountant and has no knowledge about importing cars. She is the only one I ever get a honest answer from. This isn't the way business is done, If he can't do the job he shouldn't take any money from people. This is a bad situation for everyone waiting and he shouldn't get away with this.

[2.7GTR]

Now THAT I COMPLETELY agree with. Its one of the reasons Jason (gsxtasee) would go into Motorex personally and force them to tell him what's going on. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury as I'm 300 miles away. That's why I began to personally verify everything he told me with the organizations involved (and Sean) and call Hiro to let him know that I know that he lied to me. Catch him once and throw it in face, threaten to get your money back and it usually doesn't happen again.

Originally posted by dj42
I saw all the cars at the shop. The problem here is you don't take money, make a contract and say you'll have your car in 3 or 4 months. I'm tired of being lied to. he told me on more than one occasion he had sent the check to pay for the epa testing to begin. that check has been in the mail for over a month. If the problem is he doesn't have room, he should tell me. His real problem is he gets to work when the people from the dot and epa are going home from work. Maby if he got up before noon something would get done. The only person he has helping him is Mihoko and she is the accountant and has no knowledge about importing cars. She is the only one I ever get a honest answer from. This isn't the way business is done, If he can't do the job he shouldn't take any money from people. This is a bad situation for everyone waiting and he shouldn't get away with this.

[dj42]

I throw lies in his face all the time. I just want a date from him. If he can't meet the date, he owes me money. that is the way a real company does business. I think he will have to be forced legally to do the work in a fair amount of time.

[jza80]

The work schedule issue is a real valid point. All the principals there seem to drift in around 11-12ish (or 2-3ish) and the guy at DOT works flextime and leaves the office around 3:30 EST. It seems like a basic concept to everyone (except m/x) that you need to work around the agencies that facilitate your business. They usually don't follow a party-style wake up schedule.

There may be other issues regarding payment, etc, but unless your car's emission testing was completed months ago, you are looking at about 2 months more delay as the company that does the work has relocated to a new facility and has not resumed testing yet.

For those of you 1995 MY R33 owners that are waiting on DOT, ensure that your car has two airbags - that's another "hole" that m/x was getting away with that probably has been detected by DOT. If it happens to have only one airbag, maybe there is some kind of waiver that could be applied like with R32's.

[dj42]

He has a new company doing the epa and all he has to do is pay them.

[jza80]

Who are they?

[dj42]

it's a local company by motorex. I went to the place a couple of weeks ago. I'll call me friend and find out the name.

[scourge]

Originally posted by 2.7GTR
You are more likely to drive him out of business (sending the cars back to Japan in the process) than getting any money out of the deal.

As it stands now, how is this any different? I don't think anyone wants to sue Hiro for money, but rather to force him to complete his end of the contract. Hell, I'd bet you guys would volunteer to push the car or do anything so long as the cars were finished and you could drive them home!

It looks like its just easier...and faster to hover around EBAY or just keep in contact with Sean for a GTR that has already been legalized to come on the market!

[YumGTR]

Originally posted by dj42
He has a new company doing the epa and all he has to do is pay them.

mrex doesn't use g&k anymore for their EPA work/testing/certification?

[jza80]

I didn't know there was any other CARB-certified grey market lab in CA.

[Sami]

If it happens to have only one airbag, maybe there is some kind of waiver that could be applied like with R32's.

So how many airbags should there be in R32 GT-R?

[jza80]

Beginning in 1990MY if memory serves me, some form of passive restraint was required for all cars sold in the US. Some mfg. used airbag systems (driver's side only), some had motorized seatbelts, a few used a modified conventional seatbelt that was affixed to the door and kind of swung out as you opened the door.

If the airbag option was used, only a single drivers side bag was what was required up to the end of the 1994 model year. If the belt option was elected, both drivers and passenger side was needed.

I believe DOT will allow a single airbag up to 12/1994 production for grey market vehicles - someone correct me if I am mistaken - so technically, all R32's should have some form of passive restraint system - any tested system of the 3 could suffice.

And for 1/1995-later production, both driver's and passenger side airbags are required...technically speaking...although I have seen more than one R33 GTR with just a drivers side system...and all R33 GTRs were produced on or after 1/1995.

so...

[YumGTR]

yeah, i've always wondered how that big huge glaring problem ever slipped by the original people at NHTSA. did they just assume that all of the skylines including R32 came from teh factory with airbags?

[PepsiGuru]

LOL . . . I haven't been to this forum in a couple of weeks.

Some things never seem to change
Good luck guys.




Irving
GTR . ..

[gsxtasee]

yeah, Hiro gets on my nerves and Mihoko, although nice, doesn't frequently know very much. Biggest problem with Mrex is they stay too busy exporting stuff and doing SR swaps to finish ourr cars.

My engine is still sitting beside my car where it's been for ~1month now.. waiting a rebuild... waiting behind any SR swap that happens to wander in the place... this infuriates me that I spend 10's of thousands of $$ to get a Skyline and I'm in line behind some kid waiting for his $2000 SR swap...

[jza80]

My engine is still sitting beside my car where it's been for ~1month now.. waiting a rebuild...

So it blew up? What is the extent of the damage?

Did you ever get the missing/removed parts issue sorted out?

[2.7GTR]

Honestly, Jason, I would go over there with a pickup truck/u-haul, pick up the engine and take it over to Sean. The man is awesome. Always calls you back...ALWAYS keeps you updated....treats you like a friend. There isn't anyone who can say he doesn't have the experience. Personally, I wouldn't deal with anyone else for that kind of work......

Originally posted by gsxtasee
yeah, Hiro gets on my nerves and Mihoko, although nice, doesn't frequently know very much. Biggest problem with Mrex is they stay too busy exporting stuff and doing SR swaps to finish ourr cars.

My engine is still sitting beside my car where it's been for ~1month now.. waiting a rebuild... waiting behind any SR swap that happens to wander in the place... this infuriates me that I spend 10's of thousands of $$ to get a Skyline and I'm in line behind some kid waiting for his $2000 SR swap...

[gsxtasee]

I'd like nothing more than to take it to Sean but I'm not paying for it so I can't really force the issue.. but I'm definitely going to ask... that is.. If Sean is willing to take a P.O. from Hiro :-)

[2.7GTR]

You're not paying for it?! How'd you swing that? Are you paying for the temp registration?.....or did they swing that as well?
JD

Originally posted by gsxtasee
I'd like nothing more than to take it to Sean but I'm not paying for it so I can't really force the issue.. but I'm definitely going to ask... that is.. If Sean is willing to take a P.O. from Hiro :-)

[daidae]

Originally posted by dj42
I don't Know how anyone else feels but I sick of Motorex. He (Hiro?) isn't doing his end of the contract. He lies to everyone about the status of the cars. Most of the cars haven't even gone through EPA. I think we can all get together and file a lawsuit against Motorex, get our cars and some money back for all the crap he put us through. How do you guys feel about this?

Dj,

Have this not been resolved yet?
Guess the Tommy Kaira R32 is out of the question for me, huh?